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Thu, Sep 4th 2008, 13:40

Lior Petek, University of St. Gallen, Platinum Contributor (216)

Very good article. Israel has indeed reacted in a strategically superb fashion. I would have added that - in my opinion - there are lots of anti-Israel activists who are so simply by way of irony: They recognize that Arabist and Islamist organizations and governments cannot be talked to and counted on when it comes to humanitarian and peace issues, so they aim at the side that does.

Fri, Sep 5th 2008, 06:01

The world has forgotten Palestine?

The world has forgotten Palestine, its absolutly clear. Its has also fogrotten that Israel had been established through occupation of Arab and Islamic soil. And everyone knows-but seems to forget- that extreamist and terroristic zionist and jewish groups like the Hagana, with the help of Europe killed the palestinians and forced them to become refugees.

Now I ask, why do you think that any Arab or Muslim should talk to Israel, that has never stopped building colonies in the West-Bank and is forcing many palestinians to die of hunger through a brutal sieg? Please, lets distinguish between the agressor and the real vicitms!

If we did the same, lets say got a forigen people and claimed they came from Wales, that they lived 2000 years ago there, then occupied Wales and made a State and expeled most wlesh people form their homes and branded every resistance as act of trerrorism with international help. Well, would you think that is just?

Before you make your claims and opinion about Arab people please think of this for a while and ask yourself am I still human or am I claiming to be human and a solid believer in democracy and human rights?

Wed, Nov 5th 2008, 04:30

Joseph Stephan Patac, Global Risk Management Company, (5)

The world has forgotten Palestine?

Palestine never existed in the worlds awareness and it has about the importance and priority of an ants headache to the world. (same as Wales)
There is and was in the younger history a geographical area named "palestine" or cisjordan which includes the Gazastrip, Westbank, Jordan, Israel and parts of Syria and Lebanon.
Until WW1 this area belonged for about 450 years to the turkish ottoman emipre and became after the allied victory british mandatory area, called palestine.

In fact a british Mister Edmund Henry Hynman Allenby called also "Bloody Bull" conquered the turkish ottoman owned palestinian area starting with the victorious assault on Beersheba, carried out by the famous Anzac (Australian light horse mounted infantry).
He went all way trough to Damascus.

For your correctness i would declare the so called palestinians are either former ottomans or turks or former british mandatory citizens.
That would mean that Israel "annected" former turkish soil, right?
As also to your knowledge the UN only devided the area into cisjordan, an arabic area and an jewish area.
The jews proclaimed the state of Israel within their area, which was approved by the UN.
In the arabic sector the guys just missed the opportunity to declare a state called whatever name.
Instead the decided to play Roulette "all or nothing", well, indeed they did get nothing at all in the end.

So whom you want to blame Mr. Anonymous?
The Ottomans cause of their defeat, Allenby cause of his victory, the Australians for sending their famous Anzacs, England cause of giving up their mandatory territory, the UN for dividing the former palestine area, the jews for declaring a state, the arabs for not declaring a state, the israelis for coming out victorious after being assaulted by united arab nations??

Mr. Anonymous..
you talk about; We, whom you mean with We? Arabs, Palestinians, Hamas, Hisbollah or the walsh people?
The other name of England is Great Britan or United Kingdom and the "state" Wales is part of the United Kingdom.
The Hanganah was not a terrosist groupe but the regular army of Israel!
Europe did not help the Haganah and did not sell them arms!
(out of some old rubbish from Tchechoslovakia)
No one told the arab population to flee out of the arab leaders!
The Haganah killed not the Palestinians, as they are still around and cousing problems!
(in Jordan are about 75% of the citizens "palestinians")
There are no colonies, beside a few settlements, in the Westbank as it is a autonomic arabic area!
NO one asks any arab or muslim to talk with Israel, if they want peace they can get it, if they want war they can get it also.
The palestinians would not die of hunger if they would keep themselfs busy with work and agriculture on place of terroristic acts!

and Mr. Anonymous...
please send your talkabouts to the palestinian daily press or to Mr. Imail Hanieh or Nasrallah personaly, here is not a place for people whom went through elementary shool on a missile.

Mon, Dec 1st 2008, 06:33

Ralf

Mr Jospeh is excellent at manipulating the truth.

It is very simple. People who inhabitted the land originally were displaced out of their homes by people coming from abroad. It does not matter if it is called Palestine or something else. Comparing Arabs to Jews is not correct, Jewish people belong to a religion and they can be Arabs. As a matter of fact Palestine has a sizeable jewish population. On the other hand Arabs share a common language.

Mr. Jospeh, It is not a matter for the Arab not taking the opportunity to declare a state in 1948. It is a matter of an oppression that needs to end.

Good luck to the Palestinians in thier cause to defeat the Zionists

Sat, May 16th 2009, 18:01

Ms. Fehtaleh

Jewish revisionist history at its best, Mr. Patac! As per usual, some historical info is presented, but only half-the half supporting Israel. Revisionists such as Mr. Patac only state a portion of the facts and gloss over anything they want people to forget. For ex: Back in the day, 1940’s, three Isreali gangs employed terrorist tactics in order to scare Palestinian citizen from their homes.. On 9 April, 1948, commandos of the Irgun (headed by Menachem Begin) and the Stern Gang attacked Deir Yassin. The hagana gang was one of the three gangs spreading terror in Palestine. as well. Although, it seems today that terrorist gang is now the official Israeli Army. Makes one wonder, ‘Did they really leave their terrorist roots or is their legitimacy just Public Relations?’ These terrorist gangs were responsible for slaughtering old men and slicing open the wombs of pregnant women of Deir Yassin.

REMEMBER DEIR YASSIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Israeli’s invented Terror

TERRORISM IN THE "FAMILIAR" "MODERN" SENSE WAS INVENTED BY THE ISRAELIS... Were you aware...

1. The first aircraft hijacking by a "state" was carried out by the Israelis in 1954 against a Syrian civilian airliner; and this event would also be a record of the first hijacked aircraft in the Middle East, at least 15 years before any of the infamous Palestinian hijackings! With this said, if you do research on this matter, you will hardly find any documented evidence of it!... interesting isn't it?!
2. Grenades in cafes and civilian gatherings: first used by Zionists against Palestinians in Jerusalem on 17 March 1937.
3. Delayed-action, electrically timed mines in crowded marketplaces: first used by Zionists against Palestinians in Haifa on 6 July 1938.
4. Blowing up a ship with its civilian passengers still on board: first carried out by Zionists in Haifa on 25 November 1940. The Zionists did not hesitate to blow up their own people in protest at the British policy of restricting Jewish immigration to Palestine. The ship, Patria, was carrying 1,700 Jewish immigrants.
5. Assassination of government officials: first carried out by the Zionists against the British in Cairo, when on 6 November 1944 Lord Moyne was assassinated by the Stern Gang. Yitzhak Shamir, a member of the Irgun and later leader of the Stern Gang and Israeli prime minister, was behind the plan.
6. Use of hostages as a means of putting pressure on a government: first used by the Zionists against the British in Tel Aviv on 18 June 1946.
7. Blowing up of government offices with their civilian employees and visitors: first carried out by the Zionists against the British in Jerusalem on 22 July 1946. The toll was 91 Britons killed and 46 wounded in the King David Hotel. Menachim Begin, who masterminded and carried out the attack and later became Israeli prime minister, admitted that the massacre was coordinated with and carried out under the instruction of the Haganah Zionist gang.
8. Booby-trapped suitcases: first used by the Zionists against the British Embassy in Rome on 13 October 1946.
9. Booby-trapped cars in civilian areas: first used by the Zionists against the British in Sarafand (east of Jaffa) on 5 December 1946.
10. Beating of hostages: first used by the Zionists against the British in Tel Aviv, Netanya and Rishon on 29 December 1946.
11. Letter bombs sent to politicians: first used by the Zionists against Britain when 20 letter bombs were sent from Italy to London between 4 and 6 June 1947.
12. Murder of hostages as a reprisal for government actions: first used by the Zionists against the British in the Netanya area on 29 July 1947.
13. Postal parcel bombs: first used by the Zionists against the British in London on 3 September 1947.
14. The massacre of Qibya, northwest of Jerusalem, was carried out by Unit 101, under the command of Ariel Sharon on Wednesday 14 October 1953. The attack was the bloodiest and most brutal Zionist crimes since the infamous Deir Yassin massacre. Forty-two houses as well as a school and a mosque were dynamited over their inhabitants. Seventy-five women, men and children were killed
15. The only attack on an American peacetime vessel: The USS Liberty in international waters about 12.5 nautical miles (23 km) from the coast of the Sinai Peninsula, north of El Arish, by Israeli fighter planes and torpedo boats on June 8, 1967.
16. Premeditated murder of innocent people, people under their protection, women and children...etc.: Before Deir Yassin, Sabra and Shatila, and the thousands of Israeli massacres...
Interesting, hmm?