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Marek  Swierczynski

Russian Belligerence Will Strengthen Transatlantic Relations

Marek Swierczynski: Even though technically Russia won the war, the victory will paradoxically weaken Russia’s position towards its western partners, especially the US. Military action against Georgia – however limited in scale – is a symbolic resurrection of Russia’s imperial ambitions and will thus strengthen transatlantic partnership.

This may be a turning point in Russia's relations with the US and western Europe. Aggression against Georgia has disillusioned decision makers and the public about whether Putin's Russia is a peace-loving nation. Implications may be widespread, the first one being stronger American committment to placing missile defence shieldin the countries of the former soviet-bloc.

Military action against Georgia - however limited in time, scale and impact it may have seemed from Moscow's point of view - was a symbolic resurrection of Russia's imperial ambitions and a single handed return to the status of a world super-power, enjoyed for the last two decades only by the US. While the Western leaders have desperately tried to stop the war in what is regarded one of the world's most fragile powder kegs, intellectual elites promoting friendly ties with the Kremlin, were stupefied. If politics, as many claim, is made on TVRussian tanks and armoured vehicles have inflicted more damage on Moscow than on Gori. Images of war can strike harder than bombs and bullets - and Russia did not convince the West it was right to asisst Georgia's breakaway provinces militarily.

Technically Russia won the war, but paradoxically, the victory will weaken Russia's position towards its western partners, primarily the US. And most probably it will evoke the cold war attitudes and open a "cold peace" - a period of mounting distrust, prejudice and criticism of Russian policies, which in recent years was set aside by an overwhelming wave of appeasement. A change is inevitable.

The first sign of the change is the missile defence deal between Poland and the US. Even if decision makers claim that the agreement was ready before August the 8th, there's little doubt that the war helped to strike the deal, after many thought an agreement was not possible in the near future. As a result, central and eastern Europe could face local arms build-up and possible hostile relocations of forces, but after the crisis in Georgia the public sympathy is on the side of missile defence shield.

Deterioration in political relations with Russia is obvious, but Europe has to try its best so as not to deepen the energy crisis, as it is largely dependant on Russian supplies. But in case of Georgia, Russia has demonstrated that it will not only use energy as a weapon but that it is also prepare to strike militarily. From now on, Europe will seek its energy independence more seriously and plans to develop nuclear power-plants and the search for alternative fuel sources in countries leading the anti-Russian camp will experience a boost.

Transatlantic partnership will only gain from the Georgian crisis. Criticism of the US-sponsorship of a maverick leader Saakashvili pales in comparison to unprecedented actions by post-soviet Moscow. Even if Europeans do not claim "We are all Georgians," they share the general view of the US that it is Russia who deserved to be punished. Remarkably, chancellor Merkel in Tbilisi repeated the clause from Bucharest - that Georgia is still on its way to NATO membership. A perfect timing to annoy Russia.

A symbolic date - 08.08.08 - may be remembered just as 9/11, and not as the date when Beijing Olympic Games started. Whether its repercussions will change the world as much as 9/11 did, is a very serious question, especially for us in Europe.

Marek Swierczynski is a journalist with a special interest in defence and security matters and and a member of the Polish Euro-Atlantic Society.

 

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Ben  Lombardi

August 19, 2008

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I am not at all certain that Mr. Swiercznski will be proven correct. It is equally possible that Moscow's decision to attack Georgia will serve to highlight (possibly even exacerbate) the differences within NATO on strategic questions.

The Anglosphere (US, UK and Canada) and some of the former Warsaw Pact members who are now in NATO argue for a strong, if measured, reaction to the events in the Caucasus. France, Germany, Italy and others are rather more comfortable with events, have confined themselves to rhetorical indignation, and are far more interested in insulating themselves from any deterioration in Moscow's relations with Washington.

The emergence of such differences is probably inevitable, as Europe's strategic relevance continues to fade. With very limited military capabilities that almost all (save the UK) are unable to project much beyond their borders (for whatever reasons), and increasingly dependent on Russia for its energy needs, what else can the Europeans do? Winter is coming, their national economies are slowing, and the last thing that these governments want is to be confronted by heightened east-west tensions and a threatened cut in energy supplies. What kind of sanctions could NATO-Europe or the EU apply to Russia that Moscow would greatly fear without harming the core interests of so many key member-states? The Poles and the Balts are operating within a different political calculus, and this is revealed by Warsaw's agreement on BMD, but those countries do not carry sufficient weight within NATO or the EU to make much of a difference. They will not sway Paris or Berlin or Rome, even if they side with Washington.

After the dust has cleared, we might well look back on the Russian attack as a very clever use of military force to advance several foreign policy objectives. First, it humbles Georgia in a manner that cannot be disputed: Tbilisi has been shown to be utterly impotent and its vaunted pro-Western partnerships of little help. That is useful domestically for Putin and Medvedev, but it also sends a message to the entire region. Brussels now knows that advocating NATO membership for some of these countries will be accompanied by a very high price. Beyond declaratory policy, it remains to be seen if NATO-Europe, or even Washington, has the stomach to continue to keep the Alliance's door open. Second, Moscow might have further revealed the deep fissures within the Western Alliance. Those are already evident as a result of Afghanistan and Iraq, but in this case no one in the governments of NATO-Europe can seriously fault Washington -- although attempts to do so have already been made in the European press. Given the performance of President Sarkozy, whose ceasefire failed even to mention Georgia's territorial integrity, or Chancellor Merkel, whose government led the opposition to extending MAPS to Georgia and Ukraine at the Bucharest Summit earlier this year, critics of NATO in Washington will likely continue to wonder about the continuing relevance of the Alliance.

This short note is the reverse of what Mr. Swiercznski wrote, but is not meant to be a categorical rejection of his views. He might well be proven correct. My own gut feeling, however, is that it is too soon to know what is going to happen and we ought not to assume that Russia has solved some of the West's own problems (such as intra-Alliance disarray) by its actions in Georgia. Instead, those problems could well have been made worse.

 
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August 19, 2008

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Dear Marek,
There is a saying that you should not count the chickens before they hatch. If you recall the September 11 terrorist attack, shortly after which Bush found overwhelming and veritable support among Americans to what seemed an authentic onslaught of Iraq. Americans were simply deceived into believing that the invasion was to subvert mass destructive weapons. Today, the last house wife knows that the invasion was based on treacherous lies. I would not overestimate Bush’s or Rice’s influence on the public opinion of America. Look at the reaction of Americans to Mac Cain’s – “We are all Georgian” on the comment pages of the Wall Street Journal’s site. Take a count of the opinions and you will see that it is by far not in his favour, and that considering that the western propaganda machine is spinning yarns at full speed.
In reality plenteous efforts are being made to hide the truth of what happened in South Ossetia. The ruins of Tskhinvali are shown on US TV as ruins of Tbilisi. BBC shows the late night rocket bombardment of Tskhinvali and comments on the death of several Georgians, naturally the Brits took it for Russian fire, pain stricken Saakashvili claiming Russian tanks were moving towards Tbilisi, whereas it eventually turned out to be the cowardly retreat of their own tanks. Practically all western information is scrapped, sieved and distorted. Russia has twice tried to hold a combined NATO- Russia session to sort things out and both times the American side turned the proposal down. It is too obvious why. The US would have had a lot of embarrassing questions to answer.
I conclude that there will be no consequences worthy of mention for Russia, other than some noisy innoxious ruckling of tongues in NATO. As to Saakashvili he won’t be in the game for long, he has compromised himself to Washington, and I doubt not that the Americans are just seeking an excuse to get rid of him. To Russia it makes no difference whether it remains Saakashvili or a Makashvili or any other “shvili”, it doesn’t trouble Russia in the least.
So Marek, given a few weeks, you will see that all this pretentious western “fury” will come to nothing.
I can only wish that the people of Tskhinvali and those in Georgia that so severely suffered in the recent events will never have to go through this again.
By the way I have just heard that Belorussia and Russia, following Poland’s agreement to allow US deploy rockets on its territory, are setting up some kind of anti rocket widget similar to what the US wants in Poland, I guess as in the case of Poland, the military gadgetry is intended to countermine very “likely” attacks of Iran???


 
Maka  Eradze

August 19, 2008

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Dear Valentine,

As I understand, you are Russian and you are proud of your Red Army. I don't think you should be writing about propaganda. "The ruins of Tskhinvali are shown on US TV as ruins of Tbilisi." Let me highlight one thing: we, here watch TV too and we cannot be mislead which city is Tskhinvali and which Tbilisi. As for the "Shvili's" and presidents - we decide which Shvili will be the president. Or may be Dze (as my last-name ending), or even some Georgian-Jewish...
Tags: | Russian-Georgian war |
 
Ari  Rusila

August 20, 2008

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Dear Maka,

Please do not trust too much on TV. When recently there was CNN picture about "riots" in Belgrade we soon learned that pictures were from Budapest. Also during last weeks Georgia case Reuters delivered some nice false pictures. I also remember Bosnian concentration camp pictures where actually the western reporters were behind barbed wires. Reporters are making their living with shocking pictures and news, military industry and services need chaos to increase their profit, politicians need crisis management abroad to avoid to answer questions about nasty domestic scandals and naturally there is huge amount of lobbyists for whatever ideology and product. In modern world one honestly can ask who is selecting e.g. president - the most power full pr-campaigners or citizen watching only mainstream media.
Tags: | media | Serbia | Bosnia | Georgia | PR |
 
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August 20, 2008

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I can confirm that CNN showed ruins of Tskhinvali as that of Gori. I hope this was a plain mistake, but such a well known news outlet as CNN must have issued an apology.

With regard to actions of great powers, some people may find this article in Der Spiegel interesting. The author compares Vladimir Putin to John Kennedy.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,572973,00.html
 
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August 20, 2008

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Der Spiegel URL correction:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,572973,00.html
 
Maka  Eradze

August 20, 2008

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Hello?

I had left Gori a week before the war started! I was on a business trip there. Are you trying to teach me the geography of my OWN COUNTRY? I've born here, I've grown up here and I know my country. What a misery. People, you have no blood in your vessels but Oil and Gas.
Tags: | Georgia | Gori | war | Russia |
 
Maka  Eradze

August 20, 2008

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You are discussing the geography of my country while I read these horrible stories everyday, all day long. Try to read only two stories:

Elene Gelashvili, 21 years old, is a refugee from the village of Nikozi:


“When the fighting started in Cxinvali, we all took shelter in the cellars of our houses…our house wasn’t hit by a bomb, but there were dead and wounded all over the place. We couldn’t stay there any longer and decided to walk by foot towards Gori. On the road a driver picked us up and took us to Gori with his minibus.

He told the young girl to cover their heads with a veil and act as if you were elderly people, the Russians and Ossetians are everywhere, they are stopping cars and if they like some girl, they take her right away. “Act, as if you were old women!” My friend Mari said, “What a nonsense, how should they take us away”; we implored her, but she was such a hard-head….

We hadn’t even passed a kilometre, when we were stopped by 30 armed Russians. A skinny guy put is head into the minibus, saw Mari and pulled her out of the car. All in all there were three men in the bus, which they started to beat with their guns. Then they told the driver to drive on, I still have Maris pale face on my mind….

Two days later we were still in Gori but planned to go to Tbilisi, when we heard of a girl, that had been tortured by soldiers; I couldn’t breathe anymore…….I said to myself “if that would really be Mari, she´d be alive at least. I asked some soldiers for her and when I finally found her I hardly recognised her….she had blood all over and was in a terrible state. They had taken her to a village near Cxinvali and about 50 men had raped her there. Then they had put her on drugs and mutilated her. She begged them to kill her…..


Aliko Guliashvili, 75 years old, refugee the village of Eredvi:


It´s hard for me to speak about those things, but I have to, cause all have to know how inhuman and sadistic these Russians are. Take them to court, I beg you…..

My wife has died when she gave birth to our twins, I raised our twins alone, after that also my grandchildren. When this horrible war started Ani was 17, Levan 15. Levan was torn into pieces in front of my eyes by a bomb, his body has been separated from the legs. Ani was taken to a house by soldiers, those murderers, I could hear hear wailing and moaning, but coudn´t do anything about it; I was lying on the ground, after they had beaten me up….

And those pigs still weren’t satisfied with raping her, they told her: “Run, if you make it away from here within 10 seconds, you´ll be free. The deafened and weeping child ran away and was shot by them when they hadn´t even count to three. My dear grandchild sank down immediately…….Y
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August 20, 2008

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Let’s see what Western journalists say about the situation in and around the conflict zone. Today’s Washington Post, for example, says:

“But a trip here by reporters, who were accompanying the first humanitarian aid convoy to reach outlying areas, also undermined some of the most incendiary allegations advanced by Georgian officials. Mereti, site of the alleged abductions, is the same village where government officials had recently said three local women were raped and murdered. At least eight residents said Tuesday that no such attacks had occurred.

Georgians living in several of the villages said the Russians occupying their land had treated them well, done nothing to encourage them to leave and offered the only protection available from the South Ossetian militias they feared most.

"I am most worried when I don't see Russians around," said Tina Grimradze, 68, whose house in the village of Arbo was ransacked Sunday, her belongings either strewn or stolen.”
(The Toll of the War in Georgia's North, By Jonathan Finer, Washington Post Foreign Service, Wednesday, August 20, 2008)

Georgian people will eventually realize what Saakashvili has done. It’s not Russia, but Georgians will punish him for putting his personal ambitions above his country’s interests and sacrificing Georgian, Ossetians and Russian lives and hundreds of years of neighborly relations with their Russian brothers.

I have to say that the US involvement, willingly or not, has been the driving force behind the conflict. US has no deep knowledge of the neighborhood.
 
Maka  Eradze

August 20, 2008

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How can one be so blind? Who bombed, who destroyed, who raped and who robbed the Georgian territory?

"Georgian people will eventually realize what Saakashvili has done". Georgian people sees for centuries now what Russia is doing to Georgia. Leave our own business to our people. Georgian people says: NO RUSSIANS IN GEORGIA
 
Joerg  Wolf

August 21, 2008

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@ Vladas

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I thought I had already linked my nickname with my name in one of previous messages. Vladas, the name I sometimes use online, is the name of my brother-in-law. We are an international family with Ukrainian, Lithuanian, Russian, and Georgian ancestors.

Thanks for providing online space for meaningful discussions.
 

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