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Cutting the US Deficit: Listen to Bill

Stewart Munn: Bill Clinton is right to use the UK economy as a warning of what can happen if deficit spending is cut too severely. If Republicans get their way in the ongoing deficit negotiations, America’s economy could be headed for a long, painful spell. US politicians should take heed.

Last week saw former President Clinton wade into the US deficit debate. With Democrats and Republicans meeting in Washington to find a way to reduce the massive US spending deficit, both sides seem divided on what course of action to take to alleviate the problem.

The US faces a period of confrontation. As Republicans push for severe, long-term cuts to government spending, Democrats favor a more cautious approach that depends on both spending cuts and higher tax revenues to reduce the deficit.

The cards seem to be stacked in favor of the Republicans. After a resounding victory in November’s Congressional elections, they are the party with the momentum. The GOP now has a majority in the House of Representatives and has closed the gap in the Senate, where the Democrats cling to a slim majority with 51 seats. The fear for most Democrats is, with all the leverage the GOP currently holds, it is only a matter of time before its economic demands are put into practice.

At almost $1.5 trillion, the deficit is gaping. And 9.2% of Americans are unemployed. As bad as these statistics sound, they could be a lot worse – and if the GOP’s policies are put into practice, they will. Although cutting the deficit is sensible, the GOP’s plan for doing so puts the entire economic recovery at risk.

Former President Bill Clinton’s intervention in the debate last week is very interesting. The parallel he drew with the British economy is correct. The current Conservative-led Government in the UK is enforcing a radical program of deficit-reducing cuts to the economy. The public sector has borne the brunt of austerity, with libraries, hospitals, children’s centers and council estates seeing their budgets slashed. Public sector workers have also been harshly targeted, with over half a million set to lose their job within a year.

What the severity of the cuts indicates is the ruling government’s effort to roll back the influence of the state. It has long been the Conservative Party’s aim to reduce the size of the state, and they now have willing backers in the Liberal Democrats, the junior partner in the coalition. Ideology is the driving force behind these stringent cuts to the public sector. This, too, is the motivation behind John Boehner and the Tea Party-dominated GOP’s plans to drastically reduce public spending the US. We are witnessing an ideologically driven assault on the state, under the cover of deficit reduction.

President Clinton is right when he says:

“...the UK is finding this out now. They adopted this big austerity budget. And there’s a good chance that economic activity will go down so much that tax revenues will be reduced even more than spending is cut and their deficit will increase.”

Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne and Prime Minister David Cameron (with the full support of Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg) are seeing the economic recovery in the UK stall because of their tough approach to reducing the deficit.

As President Clinton correctly states, the economy has to be fully on the road to recovery before action should be taken. The UK’s spending cuts have had a doubly negative impact on an economy where growth is already stagnant at 0.1%. Compared with the economies of Germany and France, which have shown positive growth over the past six months and longer, the UK’s economic outlook is decidedly bleak.

The mistakes of the UK government should be a warning for the US. If the GOP forces through its vision of deficit-reduction measures, the road to recovery could be long and painful. The best course of action for the US is to instill confidence in the economy through targeted, sustained investment. More government investment in the economy is the only way to heal its Republican-induced wounds.

Bill Clinton is right to warn caution when it comes to harsh austerity packages. The GOP in the US and the Conservatives in the UK should both take heed. The Comeback Kid has spoken. And yet again his message is frighteningly accurate.

Stewart Munn is a civil servant for the UK Government with specialist interest and experience in US and European politics and Middle Eastern Affairs, with special regards to Israel and Palestine. He is also studying towards an MA in public administration and global governance.

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Greg Randolph Lawson

July 27, 2011

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The U.S. clearly must get a grip on its entitlement spending. Social Security and especially Medicare and Medicaid are unsustainable in their current form.

That said, not all stimulus is necessarily bad stimulus. The tragedy is that the stimulus that happened early on in the Obama Administration was very poorly constructed and had more to do with benefiting political supporters than dealing with real issues.

A military focused stimulus (as well as a degree of infrastructure) would have made sense. America's military is living on borrowed time as it is using past generation weapons while stretching the reserve forces extensively.

The new budget reality might see the US drop a carrier group, a key piece and symbol of US power. Additionally, while rising powers notably China, are beginning to embark on carrier construction and submarine construction, we are also reducing our nuclear submarine production.

Indeed, we may be thinking of knowing our nuclear "triad" to a limited "dyad." This is strategically unwise.

It also means that many jobs that could be created aren't because the present Administration is wedded to the potential of "Green Jobs."

Restraint of social spending and a solid stimulus in strategic investments is something the US needs to do and do now.
 
Unregistered User

July 27, 2011

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@ Greg,

Social Security has accumulated $2.6 trillion surplus.

USA has (if I remember) 11 aircraft carriers. China will have 1 (at present has none).
Of course, you don't need to bother yourself with facts.
 
Greg Randolph Lawson

July 27, 2011

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The money from Social Security has been "borrowed" to pay for a myriad of different things, not all of which are wars (a common line of attack by those that choose butter over guns).

Additionally, I said they are unsustainable in their present form which is accurate as the demographic changes in the US as in the worker to retiree ratio, mean substantial changes have to be made.

As for facts, in 1950, the worker-retiree ratio was 16-to-1. Today, there are 3.3 workers per retiree, and within 40 years, it’s projected that there will be just two workers per retiree.

Tell me how that is sustainable when you factor in the "borrowing" I mentioned? The so-called surplus may exist from a purely legalistic perspective, but not in substance. The surplus is not actually there, what is there are a bunch of IOUs that are SUPPOSED to be paid back. Do we think this is likely to happen?

As for China having only one aircraft carrier, that is accurate AT PRESENT. The point is that as we begin dialing back and China continues dialing up, the ratio shifts and the balance of power shifts. Sure, its not like everything is about to flipped over night, but if this is an example of an inexorable trend, then there will be a point where there could be a distinct power shift.

If America, relatively speaking, chooses butter over guns, we may not be able to switch back so easily if the balance shifts. This is why its better never to open the door to the shift in the first place IF it can be avoided. At present, our decisions related to military spending are willful and unnecessarily induced potential wounds.
 
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July 28, 2011

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Greg wrote:

"As for facts, in 1950, the worker-retiree ratio was 16-to-1. Today, there are 3.3 workers per retiree, and within 40 years, it’s projected that there will be just two workers per retiree."


What about 400 years?

Seriously, if workers 40 years from now will earn twice as much as workers earn today (a reasonable assumption), then two workers then will be making as much money as four workers are making today. At the same taxation rate the problem is solved, there will be even surplus.

The borrower you mentioned is the U.S. government. Not paying back that borrowed money would be equivalent to stealing money from old people. It may happened, but let's hope that U.S. government will not refuse to pay back money it borrowed.
 
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July 28, 2011

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Greg, you may be interested in the following.


Here's a quick and fascinating breakdown by total amount held and percentage of total U.S. debt, according to Business Insider:



•Hong Kong: $121.9 billion (0.9 percent)
•Caribbean banking centers: $148.3 (1 percent)
•Taiwan: $153.4 billion (1.1 percent)
•Brazil: $211.4 billion (1.5 percent)
•Oil exporting countries: $229.8 billion (1.6 percent)
•Mutual funds: $300.5 billion (2 percent)
•Commercial banks: $301.8 billion (2.1 percent)
•State, local and federal retirement funds: $320.9 billion (2.2 percent)
•Money market mutual funds: $337.7 billion (2.4 percent)
•United Kingdom: $346.5 billion (2.4 percent)
•Private pension funds: $504.7 billion (3.5 percent)
•State and local governments: $506.1 billion (3.5 percent)
•Japan: $912.4 billion (6.4 percent)
•U.S. households: $959.4 billion (6.6 percent)
•China: $1.16 trillion (8 percent)
•The U.S. Treasury: $1.63 trillion (11.3 percent)
•Social Security trust fund: $2.67 trillion (19 percent)
So America owes foreigners about $4.5 trillion in debt. But America owes America $9.8 trillion.

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Joerg  Wolf

July 28, 2011

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July 30, 2011

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Mr. Munn,

I can not resist, but to you think that President Clinton is more qualified than Mr Greenspan
to understand and explain why our Free Market System with our applied monetary structure
does not function as envisioned, as Mr. Greenspan admitted to Congress.

Allow me to share my first " semester" in " Real Value":
It was 1944/45, WWII was coming to an end, but the Reichsmark was still the accepted currency. Not to show my age, but I was 41/2 years old at that time and we lived away
on our Frankenwald and Fichtelgebirge Farms in Germany.
One day my mother called me to our stables, where a distinguished man opened his attache-case, which was full of Reichsmark and told me that he wants to buy my cattle.
Before I could respond my mother offered this advice; " Before you make a decision, she said, consider that all he is giving you is Paper".
Mr.Munn, I kept my cattle, but other people would have preferred the paper, as there was a lot of it, interestingly.
I felt it to be not a bad trick to get control of other's" real values".
I further learnt when the Reichsmark was replaced with the Deutsche Mark, that different
colored papers can start a new cycle...........
Unfortunately it also created the " Credit-Score", which quantifies the quality of a human being in an environment of forced consumerism and relates to how much paper debt
one can absorb with interest paid............
We need to reconsider betting on non existing reality.

HRF



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Unregistered User

July 31, 2011

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@HRF

Interesting story. Smart advice from your mum.

I can't help but consider your age.

"It was 1944/45, WWII was coming to an end, but the Reichsmark was still the accepted currency. Not to show my age, but I was 41/2 years old"

If you were 41 at the time, you got to be 107 years old?

Wow, congratulations!!!



 
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July 31, 2011

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John,

Thank you for your comment.
Besides a few typos, I meant to say 4,5 or 4 and 1/2 years of age.
I was the only male in the family at that time, except for my grandfather, who
was in ill health..
John, you need to deduct 36 years from your calculated age and I am living now
in the State of Texas.
Greetings.

HRF
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Kazimierz  Wiesak

July 31, 2011

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Well, today paper money constitutes only about 10 percent of "all money". 90 percent is written only on computer disc, nowhere else. How do you like that?
 
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August 1, 2011

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Mr.Wiesak,

I am glad to see your interest in monetary issues.
We are aware that actual paper and coins are only a small portion of our money stock.
Also, the Nixon shock of 1971, which put all reserve currencies under the classification
of "fiat money", helped our money stock.
I think it would be interesting for you to find out , why our FED discontinued to publish
our M3 money supply in 2006.
Greetings,

HRF
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Stewart  Munn

August 2, 2011

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The latest figures of economic growth from the UK back up what former President Clinton said a few weeks back. Cutting too far and too fast has led to growth of 0.2% in the past quarter in the UK. In the past year we have seen next to no growth at all in the UK economy, thanks to George Osborne's economic policies. If Mr Osborne had followed former Chancellor Alastair Darling's plan for economic recovery, I believe the UK's economy would be growing considerably faster. In fact the economy grew by 2% under Darling's plan. A plan which, yes had cuts involved, but not to the level the current UK Government has implemented. Darling wanted investment in the economy, and this idea has been taken up by shadow Chancellor Ed Balls - a concept supported by Bill Clinton and myself.

The dismal deal that was struck in the US to raise the debt ceiling will be disasterous for middle-working class households across the States. Those who are in most need of Government support are going to be severly effected by this deal. No tax rises for the wealthy minority is appalling, but unsurprising in the most unequal nation in the world. What is happening here in the UK (with cuts effected the most needy in society) will be mirrored across the pond, but to a much larger extent.
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Paul-Robert  Lookman

August 2, 2011

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An interesting article, the conclusions of which I wholeheartedly support. The problem with the leading economy in the world is that there is a lack of spending by … the lower and middle income groups. Once these groups get enough cash to spend and enough faith in the future, economic growth will come back in the U.S.

Where the money must come from? To borrow a few of the words of Greg Randolph Lawson, the U.S. clearly must get a grip on its out-of-any-proportion military spending. With half of the Federal discretionary budget going to Uncle Sam’s military, that is clearly unsustainable. And the money must come from the higher and top income groups. And to counter Mr Lawson’s argument: military spending is hardly constructive economically.
 

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