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June 19, 2008 |  2 comments |  Print | E-Mail Your Opinion  

Anatol Lieven

The Dream of Afghan Democracy is Dead

Anatol Lieven: NATO might fail in Afghanistan. Hopes for democracy, development, and progress in Afghanistan are already dead. Even though the situation seems hopeless, the West can and should prevent further deterioration.

In public, defeat in Afghanistan is unthinkable for western governments. In private, for many it already seems inevitable - at least if the western definition of "victory" remains the vastly overblown goals set since the overthrow of the Taliban, within any timeframe that is likely to be acceptable to western electorates.

In recent meetings involving Nato officials I have been struck by the combination of public acknowledgment that, to achieve real and stable progress in Afghanistan, western forces will probably have to remain there for a generation at least, and deep private scepticism that western publics will stay the course for anything like that long. Indeed, most plans have the hopeless aim of producing clear results within three years, for fear that otherwise Canada will not prolong its presence beyond 2011 and the whole Nato effort will begin to unravel.

Similarly, public statements of faith in Afghan democracy are coupled with private expressions of near-despair when it comes to hopes of improving Hamid Karzai's administration. Many western officials admit privately that any real hopes of creating a democratic Afghanistan are now dead. "If we could get a moderately civilised and effective military dictatorship, we'd be very lucky indeed," was the grim comment of one senior officer.

Every statement by western leaders such as Gordon Brown, the UK prime minister, that this is a struggle for Afghan democracy makes it more difficult to change course. The west has already spent so long talking up Mr Karzai's democratic credentials that - absurdly - we now feel that we cannot overrule him even when he vetoes vitally important western policies.

The first step in rethinking Afghan strategy is to think seriously about the lessons of a recent opinion survey of ordinary Taliban fighters commissioned by the Toronto Globe and Mail. Two results are striking: the widespread lack of any strong expression of allegiance to Mullah Omar and the Taliban leadership; and the reasons given by most for joining the Taliban - namely, the presence of western troops in Afghanistan. The deaths of relatives or neighbours at the hands of those forces was also stated by many as a motive. This raises the question of whether Afghanistan is not becoming a sort of surreal hunting estate, in which the US and Nato breed the very "terrorists" they then track down.

We also should remember why the US invaded Afghanistan with Nato backing in the first place: not to create democracy, or even to overthrow the Taliban, but to kill or capture the leaders of al-Qaeda. Today, killing Osama bin Laden should be made the top priority for western intelligence in the region. This is not because it would have a great direct impact on the global terrorist threat - it would not, as al-Qaeda and its allies have long since become thoroughly decentralised - but because such a public success would make it much easier for us to declare victory and go home.

While we should certainly not quit without creating some kind of Afghan settlement, every plan that the west makes should be formulated with eventual and complete withdrawal in mind. We need to start serious negotiations with the Taliban leadership now, not because such talks promise any chance of results by next year's Afghan elections, or by 2011, but because the great majority of settlements to such conflicts have been achieved only after many years of negotiations.

Any hope either of a settlement, or of containing an Afghan civil war after the west's withdrawal, also depends critically on Afghanistan's neighbours. Iran and Pakistan in the first instance, Russia, India and China in the next should be fully involved in all plans for Afghanistan's future, their vital interests in the country recognised and diplomatic attention devoted to trying to forge a regional consensus. We must avoid actions in Afghanistan that destabilise and alienate those neighbours - such as the US air strike across the border that has just killed 11 Pakistani soldiers. Pakistan will be critical to Afghanistan's stability long after the west has left the region.

No quick solution to the Afghan conflict exists. The steps that I have recommended would, however, provide an indispensable precondition for even limited progress, which is to stop digging ourselves deeper into our existing hole. Many admit privately that any real hopes of creating a democratic and developed Afghanistan are now dead. "If we could get a moderately civilised and effective military dictatorship, we'd be very lucky indeed," was the grim comment of one senior officer.

Anatol Lieven is a professor in the war studies department of King's College London and the author of "America Right or Wrong: An Anatomy of American Nationalism"

This article was first published here in the Financial Times on June 11, 2008.

 

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ilyas m mohsin

June 20, 2008

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Bernard Shaw had said, " We learn from history that we learn nothing from history." This appears to apply all the way to the 'occupation' of Afghanistan in 2001 and subsequently NATO' indcution in to this dubious mission called 'democracy.'
While the US President did not know much about the world, his fallguys, the neo-cons, should have known that the Afghans hate 'foreign forces' under any garb. The latter may have hated the Taliban rule due its authoritarianism yet 'occupation' is a terribly hard-sell in that country. It is difficult to imagine how the fate of Soviet Union at the hands of the coalition of Afghans/ US/Pakistan could be forgotten as all this happened not long ago.
Prof Lieven has made a clean breast of the realities in Afghanistan. Public posturing by US etc apart, staying the course for a generation may involve tremendous costs. The poorest of Afghans is prepared to opt for a fight against aggression even if he goes without food. Such has been, generally, their tradition and they have infinite patience and grit.
While failure of 'democracy' and development process appears to have helped the resurgence of the once-hated Taliban, what Paul Krugman calls "the dog whistle politics" by the US must also have contributed in a big way.
Moreover the indiscriminate killing by the air-force, secure as the extremists have only crude arms, has created large-scale sympathy for Taliban. Thus those whose relations are killed etc join Taliban to avenge the deaths of their kin at the hands of the 'enemy'/'occupation'.
US efforts for negotiating a settlement have failed so far because the Taliban have refused to join any talks till 'occupation' is finished.
The neighbours have a stake but more so it is Pakistan which has the largest stake. It is suffering due 'friendly fire' and fire due to inefficient intelligence fed to 'foreign forces'. Looks like everybody is waiting for George w to phase out except, perhaps, Gordon Brown.
 
Patrick  Edwin Moran

July 31, 2008

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"Defeat" needs to be defined in terms of what kind of a world one would like to see emerge. A government that is responsive to its own people would promise a better future for the citizens of Afghanistan than a series of autocratic leaders selected by majority vote. A government that is not responsive to citizens but is one that resists takeover by al-Qaeda would suit the surface goals of most or all Western nations well enough. A government that fails so badly that al-Qaeda recovers its original base would not be in the interests of peace-loving governments anywhere.

Doctrinaire politicians may insist upon a democratically elected national government when the citizens of a country are yet unskilled in selecting a leader who will provide for the needs of the community. A "moderately civilised and effective military dictatorship" that aims to strengthen the nation rather than to extract money and other satisfactions for themselves may evolve, and if it can maintain itself in power for a number of decades it could strengthen the economy and internal security, and lead the people in democratizing the government from the local level and on up stage by stage. Assuming that all potential leaders in that country would will to do otherwise may be both unfair and self-defeating.

Why we got involved in Afghanistan is not as important as our responsibility for the situation we have created there. An objective view of what we can accomplish there, and what it will take to leave a foundation for growth and improvement, will lead us to see that the voting part of democracy may not initially be as important as the "equality before the law" part.

Afghanistan is a land of minorities. Members of some minorities are instantly identifiable just by looking at them. The very most important foundation stone will be constitutional protections tor all individuals regardless of minority membership, religion, etc.
 

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