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Time for the EU to Work with Russia

Cortnie Shupe: Twenty years after the fall of the Berlin wall, the West has failed to incorporate the Russian Federation into security institutions in Europe. The EU’s soft power security challenges confront the Russian hard security agenda regarding Eastern Europe. Three political moves could reverse that trend.

The recently published detailed proposal from Russian President Dmitri Medvedev for a new European security architecture enlivened the debate about the EU-Russia relationship. Yet under the term security, Russians understand something far different from the EU’s concept of soft power, especially when dealing with the common neighborhood in Eastern Europe. The EU’s vision of security implies long-term modernization leading to stability and the resolution of frozen conflicts. Russia’s, on the other hand, concentrates on hard security. These diverging perceptions of security challenges in the common neighborhood are responsible for Moscow’s suspicions toward the EU’s Eastern Partnership (EaP) initiative, formed in May 2009 with Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine.

It will be difficult if not impossible to receive a positive reaction from Moscow both in terms of the Eastern Partnership and in areas such as the definition of new security challenges or the resolution of frozen conflicts. This will remain true as long as the overarching relations, in particular in the area of security, are unsettled. This paper calls for an integrated EU approach using a combination of existing and developing instruments in order improve the gridlocked constellation of cooperation platforms with Russia in the common neighborhood.

Firstly, within the framework of the EaP, the EU should engage Russia together with the partner countries in conflict resolution—ideally starting firstly with the conflicts in Transnistria and Nagorno-Karabakh—and secondly, with the promotion of small and medium-sized enterprises in Eastern Europe. These areas comprise openly-expressed shared interests and would bring them together to make a first step toward increased cooperation in practical projects that increase trust in the common neighborhood.

Secondly, so that convergence of the EaP countries with the EU is not perceived as targeted divergence from Russia, parallel progress in agreeing on a follow-up Partnership and Cooperation Agreement (PCA) with Russia is urgently needed. In order to achieve more effective cooperation in the framework of the PCA and the Four Common Spaces (Common Economic Space, Space of Freedom, Security and Justice, Space on External Security and that on Research, Education, Culture), the EU should make evidence-based investments by evaluating which areas among the four above mentioned promise the most advancements and returns on investment . The EU should foster these areas in particular rather than focus on too many items at once with heavily diverging outcomes and prospects for future success.

Thirdly, the EU should respond positively to Dmitri Medvedev’s proposal and engage in dialogue with Moscow in order to produce a mutually acceptable and more detailed version. In doing so, both old and new members must overcome a history of fragmented bilateral strategies particularly regarding relations with Russia and respond with one voice.

Finally, the incorporation of Russia into the European security architecture must occur independently from NATO but parallel to it at the same time. Independently because a new council is needed in which Russia can help shaping from the very beginning, and parallel to NATO secondly, because most EU member states still see NATO and its US participation as the preferred institution for providing security in Europe. A new Euro-Atlantic Security Council within the OSCE would provide such a forum and institutionally integrate the Russian Federation equally into decision-making processes on jointly defined issues that are not dealt with within NATO.

With the help of the brand new High Representative for Foreign and Security Policy, created in the frame of the Lisbon Treaty, the EU is now in a position, given the necessary political will to take the initiative on all of these action items and display its unity in foreign policy.

Cortnie Shupe is currently a Project Manager in the "Young Professional Programm" at the Bertelsmann Stiftung. Before Ms. Shupe came to the foundation, she worked as a consultant and Research Associate at the Global Public Policy Institute in Berlin and focused on governance issues of partnerships in development and humanitarian aid.

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Greg Randolph Lawson

February 10, 2010

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While cooperation between Europe and Russia is no doubt something to be desired, there are no simple solutions for establishing a relationship that is anything but laregly cold and punctuated by occassion outbursts of diplomatic indignation.

The interests of Europe and Russia only somewhat converge and on perceived "existential
issues, they actually diverge rather dramatically. Russia needs to make money off of its natural resources. This will always mean energy competition as Europe seeks diversification of supplies and move away from over reliance on Russia. While, at the same time, Russia does need more foreign investment, much of which could come from Europe, it will never allow that to become a paramount concern.

Russia wants strategic depth. It always has since the Mongol invasions before there was a unified Russian state. Given its experiences at the hands of Napoleon and Hitler, it also still wants a western buffer zone that includes places like Ukraine and Georgia. Afterall, it continues to have a not altogether illegitimate fear of westward expansion, not only physically, but philosophically.

That fear of "westernization" is an existential fear that is deep and informs part of the Russian worldview. Yes, there are modernizers and those in Russia that want to embrace much of what Europe has to offer, however, cultural divides matter and cannot be easily papered over.

As for the Medvedev proposal for a "new European security architecture", what sober analysts think it is anything other than a shrewd gambit to split Europe and the US?

One can't blame Russia for their perspective. Their history is filled with so much tragedy, it would be hard not to be empathetic. However, retaining a realistic assesment of intentions still is needed.

While Europe (and America) need not be wantonly provocative towards Russia, they also should not become overly accomodative in the pursuit of illusory partnerships.
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Dear Cortnie,

you mentioned " by evaluating which areas among the four above mentioned promise the most advancements and returns on investment." Would you please go into detail, in order to enable a more sophisticated discussion?

Mr. Bonnenberg lobbied close cultural and logistic cooperations with Russia that in general are suitable for the EU and NATO. But you, however, mentioned security cooperation in western Caucasus, were Russia is engaged with the Shanghai Council already.

Are you looking forward to untie Russia from China in order to reduce the number of strong players on the ground or let the EU shift away from the US/NATO alliance towards cooperation with the Shanghai Council, aren't you?

Before we can not discuss this into detail, I would like close ranks with Greg here.


kind regards

Samir
 
Heinrich  Bonnenberg

February 10, 2010

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Firstly, Eu needs Russia and Russia needs Eu, only jointly having enough future strength to compete with the bigs, mainly with China, India and the US.

Secondly, EU and Russia need common actions, projects for better understanding each other, for shreddering prejudices, as projects of culture, of security, of energy, of medical services, of technology and so on and so forth. For eliminating prejudices, I gave my lecture at St. Petersburg University of Humanities and Social Sciences.The full speech is available in German, in English and in Russian in my statement
http://www.atlantic-community.org/index/articles/view/Europe_is_Mor... .

Thirdly, there are a lot of people around the globe who are interested to disturb each growing understanding among EU and Russia.

The most important basis for understanding is to be inquisitive towards the other, EU towards Russia and Russia towards EU, both always highly sceptical about cut and dried opions.

The youth on both sides, in EU and in Russia, has to create (will create) future EUROPE.

Thanks to Cortnie Shupe for her excellent statement!
 
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February 11, 2010

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As WWII came to an end, two methods of governance split Europe. With the fall of the Berlin Wall,
one came to an end immediately, while the other is trying to find its justification.
J.F. Kennedy seem to have found this to be " ...the imperious problems of the new age..."
While Russia's defeat of the Nazis, the Holocaust and the murderous phosphor bombing of Dresden
and Koenigsberg ( Kaliningrad) are still looming in the background, the post war generation of Europe
may not be aware that Europe's (EU) security under the NATO umbrella is the SURETY that any
confrontation on its behalf will find European soil to be batlle ground again.
On the other hand the EU seems to be lulled into self- satisfaction over its achievements, while
" the Empire" is crumbling----Greece, Spain, Ireland, Portugal-----, yet the EU continues with its
Eastern European Partnership (EaP) initiative.
The idea between EU's soft power security and Russia's hard security agenda is quite challenging.
Does anyone really assume that Russia is " shooting at Monaco", when US rockets are fired from foreward positions in Poland, the Czech Republic and Romania.
Following, also from previous articles, the propositioning of subjects one cannot help to feel, that Europe (EU) may be used as the means to accomplish what Napoleon or Hitler were not able to do,
namely expand " Greater Europe" to the Ural mountains.
........The imperious problems would then mature into a new imperium across the Atlantic.....

PS: Did the recent" Free Market correction" help to convince the EU or will the EU now be able to start walking on its own?

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Dear Mr. Bonnenberg,


Striking to read your address in Sankt Petersburg closely. I can't get rid of the feeling, however, that you are searching for some sort of "Christian Club/Empire" as reasons for cooperation, on levels of security architecture for the first and foremost, which in my opinion appears merely premature, given the fact that Russia still perceives itself as an "Empire" (see Gregs statement).

What would we have to give up in order to cooperate with Russia as mentioned by Cortnie?

There are 1,5 bn Muslims, the EU's south-eastern strategic region, and they are everything but homogeneous in matters of cooperation on manifold levels. Is the Shiite-Sunnite rift as that much larger on theological levels as the split of the Roman vs. Byzantine Church?
Or do we not feel the differences because of a general downgrading of religious identity in favor of contemporary humanism and democratic culture, don't we?

Living between the two largest religions on the globe I learned to be much more critical of religion as a base of cooperation. I prefer secularism, humanism and enlightenment instead. A direct follow up of the European 30 Years War.

Russia instead will demographically see its old communist (Also a early child of humanist philosophers) elite fading and search for a new cultural identity. Religion will play its part in addition to a raising National Socialist inspired movement. Mr. Putin called it "Core Russians".

I very much remembered when Israel's foreign minister Avigdor Lieberman cozied up with Russia, perceiving the treatment of Chechnians during the civil war as common ground given the occupation of Palestinian territories. Is this the common ground on values you see with the Kremlin? ( http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/14/weekinreview/14levy.html )

Dear Sir, I very much adore your good intentions to search for morally adorable behavior on religious levels, but I very much fear you will lack a partner in Moscow in order to achieve a next step in civilization that would be able to take on what the US has helped to create with the EU.

The issue is in my opinion more than premature, but yes we have to deal with Russia and offer them to explain how we did it. But I am not willed to risk our humanist profile during the course of such an action. After the Georgia War I am also 100% opposed to the idea to show up with Russian security affairs in the public. And by the way, the Georgians are Christians, too.

You are 100% right to address the younger generation with that, and lets hope Obama convinces the Russians to reduce its nuclear stockpile. Future security affairs could develop into a scenario of defecting another ones nukes more than using the own capability. Russia is a major reason of concern, lets extend an admonishing hand of friendship and common interest.

respectfully yours

Samir


 
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Mr. Awwad,

Russia is a multi-ethnic country with more than 20 mln. Muslims living in peace with Russians and people of more than 100 nationalities and ethnic groups. Islam is officially a “predominant” religion in Russia, alongside with Orthodox Christians and Buddhists. The Chechnya problem was brought to Russia by radical elements from abroad, mostly from Jordan and Saudi Arabia. Russia’s Muslims historically have always been moderate and never tolerated violence.

Also, Putin used word “Rossianin,” not “Russian.” Rossianin means a person of any nationality or ethnic group living in Russia.
 
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Dear Mr. Kaminin,

Sure Russia witnesses no "anti-Islamic" accord, such as in Europe develops actually under certain far right groups.

But Russian or Rossianin makes no difference at all. A nation that searches for strategic dept, such a high extend of control over neighboring states, implies that those countries are for Russian suit exclusively.

Ukraine is a example for that. Voters that are ought to decide to which superpower they belong to in the end of the day instead of caring for education, infrastructure and other daily matters.

What if this would be an EU state. The EU now helps Greek with its financial burden, but Greek never officially asked for help. Trouble is preprogrammed the moment interests collide between the EU and Russia.
Have a look to Latvia...

The Gas issue lead civilians to freeze a hole winter, tiny Georgia attacked Russia and sober analysts still ask why Russia responded with ground forces at all. Sir, according to Chechnya, this is not about the civil war at all, for me, this is about the extend civilians has to suffer in the wake of it.

Have a look to Britain, a EU member state, were Tony Blair is grilled in the public for the Iraq war. I never witnessed a former head of state in Russia grilled for what happened in Chechnya and Georgia. Not to mention Russia's support for Serbia, and the crimes committed there.

The EU public is concerned about that and really asks itself how to deal with its neighbor accordingly, given the fact of a old common history.

What would we (the EU) have to give up in order to cooperate with Russia as mentioned by Cortnie?

Or is Russia ready to give up its imperialistic approach that tends to be feed by neighboring small and weak nation states, undoubtedly a similarity to national socialism.

Is one of the largest military forces and nuclear stockpiles enough to feel save, isn't it?
 
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Dear Samir,

Thank you for your comments. In regards to your request for more detailed information on what I meant by "...evaluating which areas among the four above mentioned promise the most advancements and returns on investment", I would first refer you to the longer version of the paper at the bottom of the 500-700 word executive summary, which offers more detail. Additionally, the following is a link to the latest EU progress report (2008) on the Four Common Spaces with the Russian Federation:
http://ec.europa.eu/external_relations/russia/docs/commonspaces_pro...

Although there is an introductory note that "The Common Space of ‘External Security’ concerns principally matters related to the Common Foreign Security Policy (CFSP) and is not covered by this progress report", it is reasonble to argue that in fact the space of external security cooperation has simply not met expectations. Prospects for cooperation in this field in the context of a forum that does not include participation of the EU, Russia AND the US is limited. Consequently, if evaluations of the costs and benefits (and "return on investments") in this area do not show enough progress or the likely prospect for progress in the future, investments should be channelled instead in a more focused manner to other common spaces (Specific suggestions can be found in the paper attached at the bottom of the summary). Such a decision would have the consequence that external security be dealt with primarily in other forums, such as the new one proposed, namely a Euro-Atlantic Security Council within the OSCE.

Best Regards,
Cortnie Shupe
 
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February 12, 2010

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Dear Samir,

The answer to your second question, whether my paper argues to "untie Russia from China in order to reduce the number of strong players on the ground or let the EU shift away from the US/NATO alliance towards cooperation with the Shanghai Council?" is "neither". Rather, the paper analyzes in which areas an improved cooperation framework would be most possible in order to lead to a win-win situation. Moreover, a broad definition of security--one that includes modernization and prosperity instead of zero-sum thinking in blocks--forms the basis of my argument. Russia should cooperate with China. The EU should cooperate with NATO and the US. Likewise, the existence of a Shanghai Cooperation Organization has its legitimacy. However, it would not be in the interest of any of these partners to cooperate exclusively with each other.

Best Regards,

Cortnie Shupe
 
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Dear Samir Awwad,

Interesting conversation. Let me add my comments.

Fortunately, more people in Europe know the true story of what has been happening in Ukraine, Georgia and other Eurasian countries. I am Ukrainian myself and I invite you to learn more about how we live here.

Some people want us to hate our big neighbor Russia. Luckily, fewer of them today than a couple of years ago. Russians are our neighbors with who we have a long history of mutual respect and support. We want to live in peace and harmony with them and all other countries around us. Your approach is either us or them. Our response is let us decide what we want and when. Two thirds of people in my country do not want to join NATO at this time. It’s not in our interests right now, maybe later. However, NATO has been pushing “the road to membership” into our throats. Why? Most intelligent people in Europe know by now that it’s in the US geo-strategic interest to “to keep Europe in and Russia down.” It’s a classic policy of containment. US uses us, people of Ukraine and other countries around Russia, as tools in its geo-political game and makes us suffer in the process. (By the way, other Europeans are on this list too.) In fact, US political analysts acknowledged that it doesn’t matter whether Russia is communist or capitalist. They would fund anybody who is ready to undermine its development.

About your Greece example. That’s correct – the EU countries are trying to help each other. Similarly, the Russian Federation has subsidized our energy cost in the amount of several billion US dollars per year for more than a decade. US and EU lectured us how we should live and the Russians kept paying our bills..., until US/EU got involved and encouraged our “president” to yell at our big neighbor. Of course, you don’t help people who yell at you, so it’s not a surprise that our energy bill had gone up. And it’s not because Russia is bad, but because we were stupid enough to listen to people like you.

The EU countries trade with each other and their economies are closely integrated. In the same way, Ukrainian and Russian economies are closely interrelated. We are not asking EU countries not to work with each other. So who gives you the right to push us away from our neighbor? The EU mass media are full of stories about how bad it is that the new Ukrainian president will bring Ukraine closer to Russia. Why?

Then, your statement about Russia wanting to control her neighbors. We didn’t have this problem until NATO pushed its borders to the East. Of course, when you have a military alliance getting closer to your border (the alliance that you are not a part of), then you get nervous. And Russia’s history reminds its people that it’s wise to be nervous in these kinds of situations.

Finally, you mentioned Georgia war. Not sure we need to talk about something already well know to the entire world. Stalin (Georgian himself) cut the republic of Ossetia in half and gave its southern part to Georgia. Ossetians didn’t feel Georgians (can’t blame them) and announced independence in 1991. Georgia started war and the UN Security Council put Russian peacekeepers on the border. Georgia started war (again) and killed them. I wonder…, what would have US done if, let’s say, Panama, killed US peacekeepers? Saakashvili should feel lucky he is alive. Unfortunately, many of his fellow Georgians are not. At some point in history, Georgian will take their stylish president to court. Abhazians and Ossetians kept asking the Russian government to recognize their independence for years. The Russian answer was we will help you economically but we can’t recognize your independence. It’s until Saakashvili got American weapons and support and started his hopeless war. Can't help but consider US gevernment also resposible for death of Georgian and Russian people in that war.

Life is not black -and-white. It pays to listen to what local people say about their lives and aspirations.

 
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EU and Russia , some sort of partnership is imperative for many reasons.
But both camps try to negotiate from a position of strength without realizing that there is no strength
for both to negotiate from.
Both, the EU and Russia, have a unique portfolio for all aspects of life, a human capital with mostly common roots over time and share a single responsibility that every child has the right to be born healthy.
All discusions above are quite informative and civilized like a campus environment ought to
aggregate for the social and cultural conditions that influence life of individuals and communities.
Unfortunately real life is acting on a different page. The deregulation of capital, money supply,
creation of bank holding companies resulted in a polarization of capital like never experienced before.
Absent of any moral base our reserve currency earned the descriptive of casino currency through
irresponsible investments, which at the end just diminished real values of a nations portfolio.
At closer obervation " functional illitracy"-- absence of comprehending basic tests and documents
associated with competent citizenship---seem to find companionship with "..silent leges inter arma.."
or simply "..the laws are silent in the midst of arms..".
The Balfour Declaration, as a nation was traded to defy humiliating defeat, reflected to the same moral values as ".. it was just right.." to bomb a nation into submission at a collateral damage of about 200000 people.
Within that context an almost" perverse" version of " democratic centralism" as a functional method for
minority " supremacy" seems to be advancing. It still embraces freedom of discussion, yet
unity in action. But such a concept is not built from the bottom up, but only from the top down.
If the parties could completely rentered subservient by money and other subsidies for their activities,
this could mean the dominance of democratic centralism on a international scale, led by whom?
Certainly not Russia or the EU......


HRF








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Dear Mr. Oleh Konevets,

I want to express my solidarity to the Ukrainian people here; however, you got me wrong. I stated centrally” Voters that are ought to decide to which superpower they belong to in the end of the day instead of caring for education, infrastructure, and other daily matters.”

This means that we share the same opinion on getting between the wheels. But let me comment by a personal experience.

I studied in Mainz, two hours away from my parent’s house by train. My beloved parents paid for my expenses on levels of rent and heating costs, however, they never interfered with my course of studies, the political party I belong to and with what people I hang out.

You obviously belong to the so-called Russia leaning Ukrainians, however, there are others, aren’t there? But to me neither nor is important!

Ukrainians should care for Ukrainian affairs, again: Voters should not be ought to decide to which superpower they belong to in the end of the day instead of caring for education, infrastructure, and other daily matters.


Best regards


Samir
 
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Dear Cortnie,

I recently wrote, you would have called for a “new dawn”. An impression I had reading “Your Opinion” piece at above but not your greater elaboration below, that is much more detailed and critical towards Russia. I think Greg had a similar impression as he immediately saw another attempt by Russia to question NATO.

Maybe one should search for a historical perception on what NATO is for Europe, such being protected against every external thread for more than half a century enabling a democracy to unfold like in Germany and providing cover for a most heterogeneous continent, frequently reaped by religious divide and respective ethnic-cleansings since the collapse of ancient Rome. To find itself…the EU.

One should not underestimate HE Ambassador to NATO Mr. Dimitry Rogozins frequent subliminal advertisement regarding the US role, however. I have lashed out against his attitudes under another thread here before, a fact to be mentioned as his statement met recognition during the course of your elaboration. Dimitry Rogozin obviously belongs to the old guard, such block thinking and a deep anti-American attitude may be imputed.

Therefore, Dimitry Medviedevs statement is of striking importance, as under the light of globalization, he recognizes that Russia is to be named in one row of humanism-inspired nations. Humanism is an asset of thought that is closely related to the Abrahamic Community more general, such “humanistic ideals and values that are shared by all of Europe and are an integral part of the culture of Russia and the unified Germany”. Therefore, this statement, as you elaborated soberly, longs for more than only EU-Russia cooperation, but the question in how far a trilateral cooperation could unfold incorporating the US, remains unchallenged?

To move towards the EU, and therefore the US, too, appears as an imperative for Russia, as it has been constraint to sell gas exclusively to China in its east, hence soon witnessed Chinas deludingly brutal approach. Furthermore, you pointed out most soberly that the EU may help Russia in order to reform its complete political economic apparatus, and the fact that most nations that neighbor Russia have more intense trade relations to the EU already, including Ukraine (!).

Hence, beside my question, what the EU is to give up under an agreement with Russia (?) is now accompanied by the question on what Russia is willed to pay in order to escape isolation and, in my opinion, marginalization within the framework of the Shanghai Council?

I have lumped you and Mr. Bonnenberg together previously; however, an important difference surfaces now. Mr. Bonnenberg referred in his address in Sankt Petersburg to conspirers, who, in his words, would perpetrate “[m]isconceptions make the path to ‘Europe’ rocky. They strain the culture of discussion, deepen divisions, they can become poisonous prejudices, and destroy trust.”

As in contend as summary I oppose this thesis as the US would, in my opinion, love to see Russia more integrated into the Western realm and become a democracy inspired by other western states.
(See the initiative by the Aspen Institute in Berlin)

Let us not forget, it was Hillary Rodham Clinton’s long arm, which enabled to solve the Turkish-Armenian rift in order to enable the EU a vital diversification on its energy supplies through Nabucco by performing a shuttle diplomacy with Russia.
Iran on the one hand announced recently, Nabucco would be worthless without Iranian gas supplies, and on the other, it announced to represent Chinese interests in the Middle East (IRNA). So again, the Shanghai Council challenges the EU indirectly! In addition, the US will save our stakes there, too.

I neither see a short term nor long term scenario characterised by a US and EU that go at each other throats, given the fact that language education and basic values are similar, hence, labour market competition is to be excluded from the very beginning. The financial world speaks a similar language.

What I miss in your piece is the question how ripple effects to global echelons would be created, such the Middle East Conflict, Central Asia, and last but not least the Caucasus and the Balkans?
Changing prefixes between Russia, the US and EU here incorporates a global power shift. Suitable if Chinas bearing is considered.

So for the EU there is a need to consult wit its oldest ally in order to search for cooperation with Russia, as only the US has a Zbigniew Brzeziński, Richard N Haas and Henry Kissinger who are really capable in thinking in terms needed in order to create a multi-polar world successfully and without a major catastrophe. Mr. Bonnebergs power politics through religious affiliation and anti-US bias, witnesses the EU cannot alone by far.

By the way, if access for Turkey is denied, the US remains to be its single ally incorporating a role as largest regional power broker. Europe’s medieval dark ages were initiated with the trade routes to Asia through Asia Minor subjected by taxes through the Ottomans once. Religious politics could develop into, or already is, the most dangerous bearing of the 21 century. To exclude Turkey because of religious reasons and to search for an empire on religion is exactly what I would revolt against for the sake of my (younger) generation. Alternatively, as Thomas Jefferson said, “In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty."


Kind regards


Samir

 
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Dear Mr. Samir Awwad,

You missed my point. If we care about such ideals as the common European home, global community, etc. we all have to be Russia-leaning, Germany-leaning, Georgia-leaning, America-leaning (this is tough one after eight years of Bush administration), Estonia leaning, etc.

You label nations and in doing so you are trying to back it up with various historic associations. This is divisive. Europe has to bring new generation of thinkers up front to get read of this kind of pushy and conflict oriented politics of the past. I am not too positive though as it will take another generation of people who will be able to see things from New Europe perspective.

What concerns me though that none of this seems to matter too much any more. Russia knocked many western doors during the first several years of Putin’s presidency (including the doors of NATO). The West was too arrogant to take those efforts seriously. Actually, some European nations tried, but the Bush administration quickly shut them down. Culturally, Ukraine, Russia and some other Eurasian countries are in Europe. However, the global power shift makes many ideas of the previous decade irrelevant. We may have to shift the balk of our options to Asia and other regions, whether we like it or not.

Respectfully,

O. Konevets
 
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If you lie down with dogs, you'll get up with fleas.

The EU needs to assert where the boundaries of it's influence are (I don't mean geographic ones, but in strategic and economic terms), before it knows what shape a durable relationship with Russia can be. Otherwise their will be territorial antagonism, if not any other way than through proxies such as Georgia.
 
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Leave Russia where it is, please enough of EU new members, we already are doomed with the "mediterranean and eastern clubs !

So with Russia, just let's have trades and opportunistic political agreements !

Now at the eve of imploding our sacro-sanct EU abstraction, because of differences in our economies and policies, there isn't a true EU, we still are individual countries with their evident own problems, and sufficiently highlighted with the bailing out or not bailing out one of our "members", that didn't respect transparence in its accounts

I have the nostalgy when we were all different nations, but with leaders sufficiently intelligent and strong to not fall into sirens voices of globalisation.

May-be, we'll see this time soon, necessity wil make it
 
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From my viewpoint EU should now is the right time to be initiative towards cooperation with Russia – to end confrontation by blindly following US interests in region. Very good change to apply new approach is the case Ukraine, which with leadership of new President, could play important role with this approach. While dropping “White Stream” from priority list and putting e.g. South Stream instead could be good start. EU could make also joint project with Russia to modernise Ukraine's pipelines, help Ukraine to develop its own energy resources. Cooperation with Russia with these issues could help Ukraine also save at least part its transmission fees of Russian gas. EU-Russia-Ukraine cooperation could make the whole Eastern Partnership Programme to more constructive instead of being only economical extension of US foreign policy.
(More in my article “Ukraine: End of Orange Revolution, start of Stabilisation” - http://arirusila.wordpress.com/2010/02/10/ukraine-end-of-orange-rev...)
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February 23, 2010

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Oleh - NATO didn't "push its borders to the East", it was welcomed in as it was seen as a necessary support by many of Russia's neighbours. History is a stern teacher, and an awareness of Russia's internal needs and structures made this move a vital contribution to stability in East Central Europe. Whatever the weaknesses are in EU and NATO arrangements, there is little doubt that these two organisations have made a fundamental contribution - the spectre of intra-European war has all but vanished, and the equalistion funds have provided the means by which societies in East-Central Europe are beginning to overcome centuries of underinvestment and underdevelopment.

To say that Russians and Ukrainians "have a long history of mutual respect and support" is stretching the truth somewhat. The present-day geopolitical realities, however, mean that Ukraine, the EU and the Russian Federation all have to actively seek a way to deepen their relationships for their mutual benefit. Although there are many unresolved issues, these are generally historical in character, and have no real bearing in present-day circumstances. There are essentially NO fundamental, current, outstanding issues between these societies - I repeat - NONE.

I find your statement that the US wants to inhibit the development of Russia as curious. Americans were in the forefront of investment and development in both Czarist Russia and the later Soviet Union, and there is little doubt that an open, Western-oriented Russia would be seen as a valuable ally at the present time. And there lies the problem. Russian society has generally been inward-looking - geography, population, political systems and history have made Russia develop in a different way to most westernized societies, and the deep cultural values do not necessarily correspond with what we may expect. Not worse or better, but different. There is also an element of paranoia in Russian society that can make it unpredictable, for although now a global superpower, there are strong memories of foreign invasions which seem to have resonance to this day.

ps - I think the original term describing the American vision of NATO was ...." to keep the Germans down and the Russians out"....., but we'll leave that old phrase to Cold War nostalgics.....
 

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